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12th Mar 2024

EPISODE 8: Dissecting the Deadline with Mike Santos | Trade Impact, Playoff Strategy & the Future of Team 33

EPISODE 8: Dissecting the Deadline with Mike Santos | Trade Impact, Playoff Strategy & the Future of Team 33

In Episode 8 of NHL Wraparound, hosts Neil Smith and Vic Morren are joined by longtime NHL executive and founder of Team 33, Mike Santos, for a detailed breakdown of the NHL trade deadline, playoff outlook, and the future of player evaluation technology in hockey.

The episode kicks off with “The Neil Scorecard,” recapping the outcomes for 18 unrestricted free agents from teams outside playoff contention. Santos then dives into how Team 33, with over 20 scouts, offers unmatched insights into contract evaluations—outpacing most NHL clubs in both reach and detail.

They explore major Western Conference trade deadline moves, what they mean for contenders, and how front offices are balancing immediate success with long-term cap strategy. The discussion also addresses trends in no-trade/no-move clauses and how they're reshaping deal-making across the league.

Additional segments include a lively debate about pulling the goalie in overtime, a preview of potential first-round upsets, and The Human Side of the Story, featuring personal reflections and memories of playing against the Montreal Canadiens.

IN THIS EPISODE:

[01:27] The Neil Scorecard: UFA outcomes and playoff implications

[05:17] Mike Santos joins the show

[06:57] Team 33’s edge: contract evaluation & advanced scouting models

[07:21] Delivering hockey data in a player-first, decision-useful format

[08:18] Western Conference trade deadline arms race

[29:09] Santos shares philosophy behind trade deadline success

[30:12] Strategic breakdown of pulling the goalie in OT

[34:48] Human Side of the Story

[39:06] Memories of playing against the Canadiens

KEY TAKEAWAYS:

  • Team 33 operates with over 20 scouts, significantly surpassing the typical NHL club's scouting departments, offering next-gen player analysis.
  • The Western Conference trade deadline featured aggressive positioning for playoff pushes, particularly from contenders.
  • No-trade and no-move clauses are increasingly shaping the league’s trade landscape and challenging GMs at the deadline.
  • The Stanley Cup Playoffs are expected to be fiercely competitive, especially in the West, where physicality and goaltending will determine key upsets.
  • Mike Santos shares real-world front office insights and previews a future app-based solution to help GMs better manage contracts and scouting data.

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ABOUT MIKE SANTOS:

Mike Santos is a veteran hockey executive and attorney with experience in NHL front offices, player contracts, arbitration, international governance, and athlete management. As founder of Team 33, he leads one of the most advanced hockey scouting and analytics groups in the industry, focused on contract valuation and performance modeling.

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NHL Wraparound Podcast
Neil Smith & Vic Morren
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The NHL Wraparound podcast features Neil Smith, President-General Manager of the 1994 Stanley Cup Champion New York Rangers and longtime ESPN/NHL veteran Vic Morren sharing no-nonsense opinions on news and issues around the National Hockey League.

Bringing decades of experience from their respective fields, Smith and Morren create a unique partnership that examines the NHL from multiple perspectives. Additionally, as hockey historians, the pair can delve into any topic in today’s game and enlighten the audience with connections to events from previous years. To truly appreciate where hockey stands today, one needs to understand its past.

With 2024 marking the 30th anniversary of the Rangers last championship season, a special five-part series is planned to commemorate that magical run. Expect fascinating behind-the-scenes stories and special guests with particular focus on the GM who pushed all of his chips into the middle of the table amidst the most pressurized environments – and came out on top.

Whether you’re new to the game or a seasoned fan, each episode of NHL Wraparound will leave you entertained and informed.


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Neil S. Smith, highly regarded NHL executive, served as the President and General Manager of the 1994 Stanley Cup Champion New York Rangers. During his eleven years with the team, they achieved significant success, including three division titles, two Presidents’ Trophies, one Eastern Conference Championship, and a historic Stanley Cup victory—the franchise’s first in 54 years.

Known for his expertise in professional sports franchise economics, Smith played a pivotal role in management decisions under four different Rangers owners.. His tenure saw iconic trades and acquisitions, including Hall of Famers Mark Messier and Wayne Gretzky, as well as successful drafts and free-agent signings.

Starting as a pro scout, Smith's career highlights include the impactful 1989 draft for the Detroit Red Wings and bold trades that shaped NHL history. He briefly served as GM for the New York Islanders in 2006, later working as a consultant for the Dallas Stars, Pittsburgh Penguins, and the Mighty Ducks of Anaheim.

A Toronto native, Smith's hockey journey began in junior leagues before a distinguished college career at Western Michigan University. He has received numerous awards and distinctions, including induction into the University's Sports Hall of Fame in 1991.

Vic Morren: Born in New York City close to the Old Madison Square Garden, Vic Morren has had hockey in his blood his entire life as a fan, player and television production manager.

A graduate of William Paterson University, Morren skated for three seasons with the Pioneers hockey club and became the first statistical analyst to apply his craft to telecasts working New York Islanders and New Jersey Devils games from 1984-87. He co-authored two NHL-based statistics books within that span before moving to ESPN in 1987 and working the final season of the original deal the network had with the NHL.
After departing in 1990, Morren worked as a studio producer for SportsChannel America’s NHL coverage and the 1992 Barcelona Olympics before returning to ESPN that fall where he worked all 12 seasons on the second ESPN/NHL deal and the first season of the most recent contract in 2021-22. Morren has also earned a Sports Emmy for his work on Sunday Night Football coverage in 2003.

His relationship with Neil Smith dates back 33 years through their mutual friendship with the late ESPN/ABC commentator John Saunders. Morren looks forward to NHL Wraparound and collaborating with Smith with the goal to provide an experience of contemporary viewpoints, historical spin and an overall enriching podcast experience.